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		<title>By: Yad</title>
		<link>http://hourglass8.com/internext-summer-forum-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>Yad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When discussing the success or failures of social media sites, I feel the result either way depends on the marketing and manipulation of the element of &quot;control&quot;. By control I mean the users arena of control in personalizing, engaging and contributing to the social media site they are involved in. The control can be real or perceived but the presence of it influences the users like and association as well as the involvement. The goal of marketing on-self weather it adult oriented or sport or social or business, is to maximize that dynamic of &quot;control&quot;. Within the see-saw structure of use/control, you need to input your product and yield the return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When discussing the success or failures of social media sites, I feel the result either way depends on the marketing and manipulation of the element of &#8220;control&#8221;. By control I mean the users arena of control in personalizing, engaging and contributing to the social media site they are involved in. The control can be real or perceived but the presence of it influences the users like and association as well as the involvement. The goal of marketing on-self weather it adult oriented or sport or social or business, is to maximize that dynamic of &#8220;control&#8221;. Within the see-saw structure of use/control, you need to input your product and yield the return.</p>
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		<title>By: Leave Microsoft Alone!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leave Microsoft Alone!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reminds me of an issue at InterNext a long time ago where everyone was talking about a company that had a patent for what was [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Twitted by Miss_Darling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by Miss_Darling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://hourglass8.com/internext-summer-forum-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you made two critical points.

One, that most industry people know that social media is important, they just have no idea why.  You would have to be a metaphorical &quot;under a rock&quot; dweller not to see how Twitter, Facebook, etc have changed the face of business today.  Even news agencies are reporting creditable stories that were first mentioned on social media sites.

Secondly, and you made this in your comment to Travis, over saturation is a huge problem in the industry now.  Which is odd because it is the exact opposite problem than say, ten years ago when there were ten or twelve webmasters running hundreds of sites apiece.

With people like yourself at the helm of this, I am sure that the importance of social media will be easily taught to others, more importantly, I feel that you will lead the way in helping people implement these things and make for a more productive and interactive industry.
.-= James&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whisperedperfection.com/labels-i-dont-need-no-stinking-label/&quot;&gt;Labels?  I Don’t Need No Stinking Label&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you made two critical points.</p>
<p>One, that most industry people know that social media is important, they just have no idea why.  You would have to be a metaphorical &#8220;under a rock&#8221; dweller not to see how Twitter, Facebook, etc have changed the face of business today.  Even news agencies are reporting creditable stories that were first mentioned on social media sites.</p>
<p>Secondly, and you made this in your comment to Travis, over saturation is a huge problem in the industry now.  Which is odd because it is the exact opposite problem than say, ten years ago when there were ten or twelve webmasters running hundreds of sites apiece.</p>
<p>With people like yourself at the helm of this, I am sure that the importance of social media will be easily taught to others, more importantly, I feel that you will lead the way in helping people implement these things and make for a more productive and interactive industry.<br />
<span class="cluv"> James&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://www.whisperedperfection.com/labels-i-dont-need-no-stinking-label/">Labels?  I Don’t Need No Stinking Label</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://hourglass8.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Shibari</title>
		<link>http://hourglass8.com/internext-summer-forum-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Shibari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think that the industry has fallen behind a little. Adult&#039;s always been quick to adopt new technologies, but this is a case of relearning new marketing strategies. 

Not sure about the &quot;idiots living in basements&quot; comment - but there certainly seems to be a proliferation of amateur webmasters trying to jump onto the pr0n bandwagon since everyone talks about how lucrative it is. Unfortunately, oversaturation means that the wealth is divided up amongst more people - so no one&#039;s making a profit any more. Time to start separating the wheat from the chaff, I&#039;d say.

Webmasters are still using ICQ to network with each other - no one else really does any more. I think it&#039;s a huge reminder that the industry, although ready to be at the forefront of new tech, is slow to change the marketing model.

You could say, &quot;If it ain&#039;t broke, don&#039;t fix it,&quot; but it&#039;s clearly broken. Maybe the ones the survive will be the ones that understand new marketing tactics and the power of branding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think that the industry has fallen behind a little. Adult&#8217;s always been quick to adopt new technologies, but this is a case of relearning new marketing strategies. </p>
<p>Not sure about the &#8220;idiots living in basements&#8221; comment &#8211; but there certainly seems to be a proliferation of amateur webmasters trying to jump onto the pr0n bandwagon since everyone talks about how lucrative it is. Unfortunately, oversaturation means that the wealth is divided up amongst more people &#8211; so no one&#8217;s making a profit any more. Time to start separating the wheat from the chaff, I&#8217;d say.</p>
<p>Webmasters are still using ICQ to network with each other &#8211; no one else really does any more. I think it&#8217;s a huge reminder that the industry, although ready to be at the forefront of new tech, is slow to change the marketing model.</p>
<p>You could say, &#8220;If it ain&#8217;t broke, don&#8217;t fix it,&#8221; but it&#8217;s clearly broken. Maybe the ones the survive will be the ones that understand new marketing tactics and the power of branding.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
		<link>http://hourglass8.com/internext-summer-forum-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to go to Internext back in the day (I live in south florida).  My opinion of the pr0n industry has changed over the years.  The old conception was that the porn industry set a lot of trends on the internet.  They were early-adopters and innovators.

Honestly, that&#039;s not true anymore.  If you troll GFY.com, you know that 99% of the webmasters are idiots.  These are people that set up TGPs and MGPs, tube sites, download scripts, run spam blogs and live in their parents&#039; basement.  There&#039;s a very very small percentage that create great work on great technology.

Unfortunately, the basement kids have become the scene standard for the internet adult webmaster crowd.

However, Internext was generally a good time with the right people.  :)

—&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/vocino&quot;&gt;@Vocino&lt;/a&gt;
.-= Travis&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.vocino.com/~r/vocino/~3/q7YKniLaLkA/&quot;&gt;I’d Ride It&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to go to Internext back in the day (I live in south florida).  My opinion of the pr0n industry has changed over the years.  The old conception was that the porn industry set a lot of trends on the internet.  They were early-adopters and innovators.</p>
<p>Honestly, that&#8217;s not true anymore.  If you troll GFY.com, you know that 99% of the webmasters are idiots.  These are people that set up TGPs and MGPs, tube sites, download scripts, run spam blogs and live in their parents&#8217; basement.  There&#8217;s a very very small percentage that create great work on great technology.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the basement kids have become the scene standard for the internet adult webmaster crowd.</p>
<p>However, Internext was generally a good time with the right people.  <img src='http://hourglass8.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>—<a href="http://twitter.com/vocino">@Vocino</a><br />
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